The problem is people think of it as a "plot hole" because their so obsessed with power tiers. Jan 18, 2020 #6 Because Gol D Roger sickness is … Unlike Kaido, who apparently has natural scales that won't let him be killed, Shanks seems to just be a regular human like Garp and Mihawk. There is no way a Sea King could ever take his arm like that, unless he said he let it happen. When you look at Naruto, they did the same thing with Iruka, who laid his life on the line to save Naruto. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Even Shanks is not in his ship he showed some of his power on the crew of the strongest man in the world and this gives us a proof on his power. He says. This is the best comment I've seen on this. I'll get you out." AU $12.13. Luffy likely will avoid seeking out Shanks until he feels he can actually challenge Shanks for the worth of learning how to get to Raftal. The Yonkou are strong but they aren't gods (which is kind of the point of these last few arcs: revealing both their immense strengths but also their fundamental weaknesses). Not really a fan of this explanation, I think to say he did it on purpose is just too much. This sub is mostly an echo chamber, so if you say something outside the pinned theory thread that speaks critically of One Piece, generally, people don’t like that. Shanks is not cruel like many other pirate captains, nor does he rule over his crew with fear to gain respect. The last One, Decision stage. Running out of haki isn't exactly a new thing in the series and even Law points out Luffy is wasting his haki when he uses gear 4. Despite all that, Shanks has already played a very important role in Luffy’s journey towards becoming the Pirate King. It was a wake-up call to the harsh reality of the sea, and it also gave him a prime motivation - that if Luffy didn't at least try, then his hero would have suffered for no … Regular. I think losing an arm was also a way for Shanks to affect Luffy's vision of life and the world : you can't go out to the sea and live an adventure on your own if you can't even survive a sea monster attack. Reborn ~~Inglorious Bastards~~. Which he did. Thread starter AllKnowingShinobi; Start date Dec 4, 2016; AllKnowingShinobi Active member. Oda couldn’t think of anything better than Shanks making a sacrifice, which is often the case in the world of Anime. Shanks bet his arm on the new Era. Irl answer is that his editor thought there had to be something interesting in the first chapter. If Shanks didn't lose his arm back then, would have Luffy been psychologically affected by the accident ? Luffy is in the middle of the ocean and Shanks mysteriously finds his exact location right on time, could be written as a do or die scenario where he chose to put all his haki in speed rather than defend himself. It might be a (big) part of the reason why Shanks passed his hat on to Luffy. Also, if his CoB is so strong, why could he not make it unconscious? By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The average age of a Shanks family member is 70.2 years old according to our database of 5,094 people with the last name Shanks that have a birth and death date listed. That’s probably all the thought that has gone into that scene at the time and it worked out good in retrospect. Plot. I think you’d be hard pressed to ever find Oda saying he didn’t lose anything. The rubber boy has taken several decisions which could have resulted in his , and the crew's demise. Let me explain. Welcome to r/OnePiece, the community for Eiichiro Oda's manga and anime series One Piece. Shanks sacrificed his arm for the New Generation of Pirates. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Initially, Oda had no intention that Shanks lost his arm, but after an editor told him that the story was not interesting enough, Oda decided to cut his arm off. Dec 19, 2020 #22. In Episode 1 when Luffy BTFO'd the Sea King that nommed on Shanks arm. We provide you with the latest breaking news and videos straight from the anime & manga industry.You can also enjoy articles & reviews on manga, cosplay, anime games,otaku lifestyle and more! Because of that particular scene, I think many characters began to like Shanks, and the series as a whole. 1 Joe Maya Well-Known Member. Fact is making an important character lose an arm to save someone is a strong emotional statement and keeps the reader involved in the story. Arlong has stronger teeth than Lord of the Coast, but Luffy didn't lose an arm. Yes? Additionally, he was super interested in Shanks hat, not just interested, but kind of obsessed. We know by fact (source : Vivre Cards) that Shanks was a yonko already when he lost his arm to the sea king. Shanks saw the old captain in Luffy when Luffy said word for word what his old captain used to say about not backing down from a fight and how shameful it is. Why does everyone say Shanks has the best CoA (like an armor)? To top all that, he even stopped the war of the best by just making his appearance there(!! why Shanks why JUST after Roger came back from laugh tail why he cried the foreshadow is clear ... there should be a legit reason . It also makes no sense imo, because: If Shanks didn't lose his arm back then, would have Luffy been psychologically affected by the accident ? Shanks's Haki was garbage 12 years ago when fought mihawk. I agree but Luffy beeing Luffy he probably forgot about thinking twice about his actions about 5 seconds after Shanks lost the arm. Of course it would. Shanks had that scar even before he met Luffy 12 years ago at Fyusha village. Combined with the foreshadowing he wanted to do of Luffy's own CoC in Loguetown's canon Novel, it's not too much of a stretch to say he used Conqueror's Haki in the first chapter. These authors aren't 300 IQ chessmasters. Which adds to Shank's status, and almost certainly means he's a strong individual. If Shanks didn't lose his arm back then, would have Luffy been psychologically affected by the accident ? It was the last film directed by producer-director William Castle. I am pretty sure that he did it on purpose : losing an arm in order to make Luffy evolve and to reinforce his link with him. First thing is the time of scarring. What the editor was actually trying to establish was that while the start to One Piece was decent, there needed to be an impact. If Shanks wastes Luffy to not be reckless, then he failed miserably. \"Gomu\" means \"rubber\" in Japanese. This page describes the Crew Positions that someone can take on a ship. Shanks is a 1974 American horror film about a puppeteer able to manipulate dead bodies like puppets . They feel ashamed for this act and some of Shanks family members split off and started to live among humans. All images are copyrighted to their respective owners. He taught Luffy to fiercely value those bonds, to risk life and limb for them. The Reason Why Shanks Lost An Arm. [Theory] Shanks arm. Am I the only one who think that it is definitely not ? Monet. He gave it up to drill into Luffy's head the man that a Pirate King should be. but, i would likely to say shanks is stronger than mihawk. Too bad he's still reckless as fuck, even post-ts and even post-zoro telling him not to be reckless during punk hazard. From the East Blue to the New World, anything related to the world of One Piece belongs here! That already happened. We also know that losing his arm has not weakened him. Oda wanted to introduce Fishmen at Chapter 3, which means the concept of humans being strong enough to fight them underwater was likely there (like Sanji and Kuroobi). What if one of those tales was about how Shank’s ancestor got saved by a certain “D.”? While Luffy wasn't directly responsible for Shanks' lost arm (it's not like he personally bit it off), this is a moment that must still hang heavy on his conscience to this day. 1. Today’s post is titled Red Hair Shanks One Piece.He is the guy we all probably love and respect. If you believe we have used your copyrighted content without permission, send us an email at [email protected] and we will remove it immediately. So, Shanks’ arm was used as a way to get fans hooked on One Piece. People like Nekomamushi and Queen aren't on a different level if you give their arm back. so im guessing he is indirectly saying he put faith on luffy even with the cost of losing his arm. He also saved Luffy’s life at East Blue, and in that process, he ended up losing an arm. Because in episode 461 when Ace meets Shanks in the cave they show his left arm its a flashback but its after he saves Luffy. https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/7dwrft/did_oda_always_planned_haki_or_was_it_added_only/dq0xeal/. © 2013-2020 Sotaku.com. Newt looks back to you and gets down on his knees and bends over the box, holding out his hand for you to take. See: a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/106/52-506.0/compressed/i017.jpg – Chen Orihara Oct 5 '15 at 13:32 He almost drowned and then was almost eaten due to picking a fight he didn't need to; how could it not? Also, I disagree with him referring to it as a "bet" somehow meaning it was on purpose. That would be a horrible thing to do. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Luffy has always admired Shanks and is quick to both model the man's look and philosophies. There is still a lot of mystery around that scar,but we know some things about it and can make some conclusion based around it. He said something along the lines of “Shanks is still incredibly powerful without his arm”, and took that to mean he’s at full strength. Shanks is a relatively tall man (just under two meters), well-built, tan-complexioned, and in the prime of his mid-adulthood. And we still don't know the exact meaning of that straw hat. In the Viz Manga, 4Kids and Funimation dubs, it is called the Gum-Gum Fruit, \"gum\" being a soft, cohesive substance designed for chewing, with elastic properties. All content cited is derived from their respective sources. It speaks more about the “why” he did it instead of “what” the action was. Of course, it's when what he values is truly targeted does one get the latter half of this quote. Just because the Sea King was overall weak doesn't mean it couldn't have enough bite strength to take off the arm of a strong man who isn't focused at all on his own personal well-being. I don't like the idea that he "gave up" his arm intentionally either. cuz shanks tells white beard at one point that he had put bet/faith or watever in the east blue for the new era, when talking bout his lost arm. 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The fact that Shanks lost his arm has nothing to do with his strength. But it is certainly VERY precious to Shanks. He would love to use the place as a base till the child is born but knew. wait i thought i read somewhere that the shichibukai were the original "endgame bosses" before the idea of the yonko was even conceived bc oda didn't know how long one piece was gnna last; wouldn't be able to provide a source for that tho. Shanks is one of the most laid back characters in the world of One Piece, preferring to take his time as he and his crew travels around the world rather than rushing from one place to another. And how he got there for in that instant to save Luffy? All this means Shanks is too strong, as a character meant to be in the endgame from the beginning. Worthy of note is that… Later, at Water 7, Garp was the one who explained to us what Shanks’ really was, and how strong he was! From a story point of view, Shanks losing his arm for Luffy is part of the reason why Luffy turned around and took himself and adventuring so seriously. That’s right! Would you really want your hero to carve out your future by tricking you into thinking you cost him his arm? You walk over to where he climbed and take his hand, setting a foot on a box, getting ready to climb out, but he just pulls and lifts you. You have entered an incorrect email address! We get to see the power of the World's Strongest Swordsman in Chapter 51. It's a nice explaination, I;d just like to add that during the Sabaody Archipelago Arc when Luffy spoke with Silver Rayleigh he spoke of Shanks loosing his hat (and arm). He risked life and limb to save someone that had no guarantee of living up to his potential; that's what the bet is. An example can be taken of when he pissed off Big Mom for no big reason in Fishman Island. 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